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i am trying to add this site which is a downloadable hiphop drum samples site as i have never heard of welsh hiphop

piton & 4dee fly the dragon high,a patriotic welsh rap choon gunna be huge.also look out 4 pictons new track BOUNCE,K.DIFF SYNDICATE 2005.

PICTON(of the H.S.G kru) & 4DEE, FLY THE DRAGON HIGH AMAZING TRACK.Also check out bounce,rock da riddim,& tha fings i say by picton all on the k.diff imprint.

Bounce by PICTON(aka joe blow)has gotta be a welsh hiphop anthem for 2005,truss me!

Ive jus got hold of a bootleg copy of pictons (joe blow)cd featuring hsg & 4dee if u want 2 check it out go to http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jester9919/vas%20stuff/

Just downloaded pictons cd,definately the cream of cardiff hiphop by far.Best track has gotta be "its hsg" .

Optimas prime dial up records,the dominant force of welsh hiphop,junior disprol track is amazing.

goldie looking chain are a bunch of fu**ing dickheads.Their album consists of more cheap gimmiks than ali.g.Even though they've had the most comercial success that a welsh rap band has ever had,u must ask yourself why(they couldnt rap if they had a hole in thier arse).There are plenty of welsh rap bands with mad skills,i just hope they dont get tared with the same brush as g.l.c.

Just for the record,the cd floating around on the net is not my official album,they're just unmixed tracks(some of which were made over two years ago)that some cunt managed to leak out of the studio.check dial up records(optimas prime)for me &4dees freshest tune SHELF SHOCK,hitting the shops real soon.

Ive read the article on mudmouth in ukhh on the net,the last time i heard him was at the toucan club attempting to battle chester.p & getting slued in the process.It would be interesting to see how hes progressed since then but i cant seem to be able to buy his album anywhere, can anyone shine any light on this matter?

The new arkane album called arkane is the dogs knackers....absolute class this is a must have l.p

caskade &direct are wicked emcees.I heard them on a grassroots cd with johnny.b & johnny got rinsed big time.Anyone no when dark skies is going to drop?

Cesto is on 3 tracks on pictons c.d check out Http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jester9919/vas%20stuff/

from 30/3/05 my bootleged cd will no longer be available from jesters address.check out http:/www.hsg-click,tk (hsg site currently under construction.or check out www.k-diff.co.uk/-5k for more info on future releases.

look out for optimas primes new e.p on dial up records titled 'try b4 u buy' featuring h.s.g 4dee&picton,blacktrix&nobstanuts.out end of may.

Just heard nobstanuts new 12 inch on wonky wax,this guys a legend in his own right

HUMERAK,S LAUNCH PARTY @ THE TOUCAN CLUB CARDIFF WEDNESDAY 13 APRIL 05,ITS GUNNA BE LIVE/O....

Any humurak fans should go to www.humurakdgritty.com .....& check his video out,soon to be featured on channel u.....

Who the fuck is stingerman?obviously a proper wanker who hasn't got a clue what he's on about.It's small minded anal fuckas like stingring(or whatever yr name is) who try & hold the scene back.Go back under the stone that u crawled from u cum swallowing nonce &keep yr opinions to yourself cos knowone gives a fuck about what you've got to say,as you definately havent got any respekt for the original pioneers of the welsh hiphop scene.

JO BLOW,N,4DEE UNRELEASED UK HIPHOP@ WWW.TORRENTREACTOR.TO/PROFILE/USER-64198.... OR GO TO BONEZ PROFILE-TORRENTREACTOR.TO/.COM-.......THIS IS DEFINATLY DA BOOM.

friday may 13 SKINNYMAN HUMURAK&BLACKTRIX@ student union cardiff its gunna be liveO.....

Big up peoples just so you all know the Cardiff Heat of the DMC World Championships will be held at Higher Learning, Toucan Club on Friday 6th May

i was tuned into uk bass radio on the net late last wednesday listening to umbillacord & he dropped a few hiphop tracks in his set,the mc announced that one of the tunes was by jo blow &4dee but didnt say the name of the tune,it was a dirty track on a redman&methodman tip,whats it called &when is it coming out........

yo, best believe, all the above deserve their props (except for ring-stinger), but all these welsh hip hop pages miss out half the fuckin' artists who're also making moves!? so it falls on me to come on here and big up: myself and Hos, Se'Fire, Lews tewns, Stophe, Headcase, Wez Cooze, Lecta & Mykes. There's more to Welsh hip hop than Cardiff, you just need to dig a little deeper.....
respect to all welsh artists is due, but lets not play the 'elimination game' where if you aint known cardiff, you aint getting through!
as it stands, people outside the capital are simply not taken seriously! this needs to change. peace

and while im here, gotta plug my album: Qred & Hos- 'Survivor Series', out now on Progenitor Inc. Also look out for the new joint ready to drop in autumn: 'Labotomies For The Sane', which will be featuring a whole host of underground talent from all over the UK. And still available from Progenitor Inc. direct: Qred- 'Brutal Deluxe' and Qred aka Mesma- 'Havoc In Valhalla'.
Email: KLIMTING@AOL.COM for details.

yeah 4dee, safe. i wasn't getting at anyone in particular, just a voice of frustration, y'know? like you say, its not where you're from its where you're at. there's some good shit coming out of every nook and cranny in Wales at the moment, exciting times! i hope every single artist mentioned on this page pushes this thing we love to the hilt, 'cos it's what we all deserve. peace

biggin up qred yr shits tight,good production & wicked lyrics.4dee gimme a cut of wot u emailed him & i was pleasently suprised,stay in touch a collabo is on the cards defo.

oh yeah while I'm here might as well remind you all that next Higher Learning is on June 3rd and it's gonna be Mudmowth alongside NORMSKI!! there will also be the Open Mic and DJs of course. I believe HSG are playing this Thursday too at the Battle Cry night in Red Rooms which should be off the hook.

yo 4dee & jo blo, gotta say thanks for the positive feedback you guys are giving on my stuff, i appreciate it! and right back at ya, your stuff is hot, i can see what all the fuss is about! i am definitely looking forward to collaborating with yas. and yeah, props to random pensees for making shit happen and putting together a wicked page. also thanks for the dope reveiw of my track, im glad you dig it! peace all

go to www.dialuprecords.com the web site is now officially up & running lots of safe stuff downloads mixtapes the whole nine yarrds,check it out...

Nice one Mr 4dee. That's what happens when you don't know what day it is. If I have any more nights like the last Higher Learning then I'll be hard pushed to remember the year.

Just as well it's next week as playing at the River Front in Newport with Keltech & Johnny B tommorow. Any one want to reach down it would be appreciated. Definitely gonna be down at the Battle Cry night now. Big up Slammo and Rmer!!

Peaze & Dub

Some photos from the other night (DMC Championships @ Higher Learning)

http://www.dmcworld.com/technics2005/gallery_uk_cardiff.asp

for those who were there or anyone who's never been to the HL.

going out to captain & 4dee u both got it wrong the gig at tha red rooms BATTLE CRY is thursday 19may....stay focused ,peace...

fuck me, so its the 19th now is it heh heh heh? good job i booked that night off work then eh? looking forward to seeing how the Cardiff crew do's @the red rooms, line up looks dope, and ill finally get to put some faces to names! we'll sink a few bevvies, hope there's some fellow guinnes drinkers among ya!? peace

strictly STELLA qred u no`s tha sketch.biggin up all tha wife beater kru ahoooo!

just been on associated minds web site and i got to say that ralph rip shit is one sick mutha fukka,big up your self ralph...your ep is dope...

Yo couldn't make the Moloko gig cos we were jamming with Keltech & Johnny but heard it was live so big yaselves up. Will catch you at the Red Rooms.

Shouts to all the old & senile crew!!

Peaze.

yo lesley,tell yr bruver to get his lazy arse down the studio more often & he might get a few more shouts innit!cesto will be performing at the red rooms on da 19may....

wooooooo i dno

that comes without saying ford,cestos a wicked emcee & i loves him like a brother,his skills r sicker than average i just wish he would dedicate more time to hitting the vocal booth...hes got loads of heavy heavy rhymes he jus needs to put em down..

yo heckler kosh, i would love a copy of all those tracks you mentioned, fuck aye boy! i will be at red rooms tonight so bring 'em along?! nice one dude

Yo, jus heard some Se Fire tracks on some random CDR and they were proper. Dope beats, heavy rhymes - the shit. props 2 Arkane too. Got 'Handstyles' album an it's fresh, well different. Nice n old-skool! takes me back to early 90's, proper feelgood. Safe to this site too 4 givin us cunts somewhere to chat about this shit! peace

STINGER MAN U REALLY ARE A FUCKING SPASTIC,KEEP YR SOUR GRAPE OPINIONS TO YOURSELF & GO BACK TO HAVING SEX WITH YOUR MUM.YOUR RETARDED COMMENTS CARRY AS MUCH WEIGHT AS AN ANOREXIC MOUSE,STOP HIDING BEHIND YR P.C. & PICK THE MIC UP IF U GOT SOMETHING TO SAY(HOW INTREEGING WOULD THAT BE?)WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO HERE U MAKE A PRICK OUT OF YOURSELF,SO GO AHEAD,STEP IN2 MY CYPHER ZONE,HOMO.................

Stinger, when I read your comment, I considered exercising my very rarely used discretion to delete it. It goes beyond what I am prepared to tolerate as moderator. That said, I also think that the remedy for speech I don't like is more speech, not censorship. Since JoeBlow and 4dee have already taken care of the more speech part, I will leave your comments up.

In the future, however, I reserve the right to remove that kind of shite. It does nothing to advance the discussion.

biggin up mud mouth & ralph rip shit 4 a wicked show @ higher learning on the 3rd of june alongside the legendary NORMSKI(man that dude can party).anyway the next higherlearning is on the 17 june with tha rottenous gang like BLACKTWANG supported by my kru h.s.g.& optimas prime on tha kut.toucan club 17 june,its gunna be dangerous.....

mud mouth ,just to get the name out e.p is fucking wicked,go & buy it.welsh hiphop at its best.

first of all i gotta say big thank u to optimas prime(monkey & stagga)for taking the time to put a set together for us (h.s.g)& making it a show to remember,without u guys we wouldnt of sounded half as good,nice 1 big up yr chests...thanks to everyone at higher learning for hooking us up with the gig & every1else who played on the nite,BIG UP.....,..

iwas @ higherlearning on friday and it fucking rocked dude,everyone that performed did really well.I used to listen to busted but now im well and truly converted to welsh hiphop dude,i think its really cool and i can not wait untill the next event.

Big Up Every Muthafucka Around!

RC STYLEE IS A FUCKING WANKER,IVE DOWNLOADED HIS SET OFF BASS KNIGHTS & ITS SHIT,FEEL FREE TO SEND HIM HATE MAIL.

Shit the bed! I didnt realise this shit was going on,Mad one! anyway my boyos its not welsh hip hop unless you use the language, i`d call it hip hop from wales especially considering alot of emcees in wales arent from wales.Shout out to all the heads like Qred Captain Ralph.

Wez Cooze
www.hazardoushiphop.com

any budding artists making there own material should check out http://www.soundclick.com/ you can also vote if you think the tracks are hot or not,check it out.

yo, whass happening, goons? RC stylee, i heard you dance in leather on a caged podium, at a poof`s club in Slough? or do i have you confused with someone else? forgive me if i do....
for everyone else, my new album, "Backstreet Labotomy" is well underway. its turning out to be a monster, gonna have guest spots from; lews tewns, headcase ladz, wes coose & mykes, 4dee & picton, prem c, dp, vadertron, chief, triple a, recite, creature (from NYC), tarp (from philadelphia), free agent, and hopefully mudmowth and ralph rip shit. also, some guest beats from, mr stophe, sir beanz and hos. dropping this winter, miss out at your peril.....

Easy all, just reminding y'all bout the current Dead Residents 12" out now 'Pigeon Street', as heard on Lamaqu, Beth and Huw and 1xtra etc. It features Optimas Prime and the Beefeaters. We've also got an lp soon coming too and an ep preceeding that plus guest spots on forthcoming Hard Livin 12", 4dee and Picton ep Blacktrix ep and a whole heap of others...
Big ups to my spars Optimas Prime, Headcase Ladz, Breaknecks, Mudmouth, Skinz, HSG and 4dee, Wez, Mykes, Blacktrix, Humurak, Johnny B and Keltech, Rufstylz, Jaffa, Paul B, Edz aka Formula and all the other fresh Welsh hip hop doin it right now! 1 luv!!!

yo i heard some of your stuff qred, i think you need to lighten up? hip hop has moved on, you should be looking to artists like nelly, ludacris and 50 cent for inspiration instead of the old, dark new york stuff you obviously base your beats on? you need a bit of r`n`b in your sound to make it easier to digest. who agrees with me?

ummm, Tactile? Nelly, Ludacris and 50 Cent? you really have missed the fucking point, haven't you?

a message for tactile- i think youre full of shit, mate. qred's stuff is what a lot of people wanna hear in my opinion; so many hip hop fans are tired of this squeaky clean, processed, rnb flavoured shite! i like a bit of dirt on the needle, and gritty drums thudding away, fuck the hip-pop shit, cos to me thats aimed at kids anyway! long live the hardcore! and qred, i know you dont give a fuck for these nelly-loving goons anyway, so keep it going mate! welsh hip hop is coming into its own right now, i hope it can keep its momentum up, cos its got a rosy future up ahead. peace all

Tactile,i dunno how long u,ve been into hiphop music but i can safely say that any choon that cums on the radio in my house with nelly singing on the hooks gets switched the fuck off,i must say that i like SOME of 50cents stuff & ludacris can be a naughty lyricist when he wants to be,but there could never be a substitute for 100% dirty stinkin hiphop.So fuck all u hip POP lovin mutha fuckaz cos u dont no shit.Educate your minds & buy a copy of back street labotomy when it gets released cos u wont find any commercial shit on there,truss me...........

easy peoples, just passin' thru and thought I'd let you know that the next Higher Learning is on Friday 5th August with Headcase Ladz, Probe Mantis (Aspects) and special guest host for the night Jargon (MI5 / Natural Born Spittaz). Only 5 bones (times is hard we know) plus we got the Open Mic as always and me and Stylz on the decks. After that we're holding the UK Finals of the DMC Team & Supremacy Battles (Septemebr 2nd) then October it's the return of our firm favourite, the best beat boxer in the world Mr Killa Kela with some of his new isht. Then of course it's battle season again so don't say we haven't given you enough warning!

Big up everybody, even them ignant mo foes.

Captain

A big shout goes out to dj caliban @ future flavz over in NEW YORK for giving our latest release SHELFSHOKK its world premier on his show last sunday,cant thank you enuff & thats from everyone @ dial up records.....

Congratulations, Joe! I missed it, I'm afraid, but I think that is really excellent news!

yo, big respect to the dial up camp for getting airplay in NYC. welsh hip hop is going from strength to strength for sure.
i just heard 'happy slapper' by HSG; gotta be the best thing ive heard from them, proper dirty track just how i like it!

Current listening-

Optimas Prime "Try before you die"
Headcase Ladz "get a life"
Dead Residents "poltergeist frequency"
Lewz Tewnz "pup 2"
Blaktrix "strappado style"
Mudmouth "just to get the name known"

Highly reccommended releases.

half you 2-bit drips aint got a clue what hip hop is about. thats why it takes a lame page like this to get you all chatting- cos you taffs aint got nuffin else have ya? i can count the decent welsh acts on 3 fingaz; but i wont name them here, cos punks might get upset. lets just say; bein a dope welsh hip hop act does not consist of: overusing your accent and 'comedy' shit to try to appeal to peeps. trying to pretend you're from london, and talkin all that 'blood' shit etc. coming with a wank flow that 'critics' pigeon hole as 'drunken style'. get real boys, this is hip hop after all? those that are dope dont have to post it on bollocks like this all the time do they? i know this wont get printed, cos the welsh hate the truth eh? wake up to the truth!

The Welsh love the truth and theyve taken your words on board and are now cleaning themselves up (no more drunken flows).

Theyre also cleaning up their image and taking themselves a bit more seriously from now on.

2 SWORDS YR A PENIS & KNOWONE CARES WHAT YOU SAY OR THINK BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY WHO ARE YOU & WHAT RELEVANCE DO YOU HAVE WITHIN HIPHOP?.DJ EXCALIBUR WAS ASKED WHAT HE THOUGHT WOULD BE THE NEXT THING TO BLOW UP IN UK HIPHOP & HE REPLIED "WALES" NOW HIS OPINION COUNTS & YOURS DOESNT.

Blacktrix- raw style, drops science
Optimas Prime- Ill producers and world class dj's
Mudmouth- charizma and ill punchlines
HSG- loads of talent, strong rhymers
Dead Residents- Heavy breaks, sick rhymers
Humurak- street style and attitude
Headcase- originality and skills plus best live
NSP- dark style adrenalin
Lewz Tewnz- multi talented
Johnny B and Keltech- party and positive vibes
4dee- mad energy and hunger
Breaknecks- hype, energetic style
Rufstylz- world record freestyle holder
DJ Jaffa- strong producer and live dj
Hazardous- attitude and charizma
Qred- dark, intelligent style
Direkt and Caskade- strong rhymers
Pep Le Pew- prolific, original

Theres loads more. Plenty of Versatility in the scene in south Wales

Some more names-
Tystion, MC Saizmundo, Cofi Bach, Paul B, Beatbox Fozzy, GLC, MC Mabon...

Im always dubious when someone posts up on something like this hating. Whats with all the negative 'Welsh' comments 2swords? More so than the rest of the country no two acts mentioned sound similar or sound like they're emulating whats coming out of London. Theres only one 'comedy' act I can think of so theres enough room (occasionally being humorous doesnt count in my book). Theres only one MC with a so called 'drunken' style in Wales and the only 'true' exponent of that style in the UK, so again- more than enough room. One of the original foundations of Hip Hop is about being 'original' and thats definately in evidence here. Your opinion is your opinion- fair enough but I think if you're a rational human being even you'll agree that your comments are completely unfounded. Looking forward to a retraction and apology.
Peace.

well, in all fairness, some good points. the list above does show, above all, originality within each act. some aint my cuppa, but thats my opinion. i see some very positive things happening with the welsh scene at present, like Dial UP Records gettin airplay in NYC, Associated Minds are getting good press in all publications, Qred collaborating with peeps in New York, Philly and Canada, Headcase Ladz releasing on Zebra Traffic....
however, although i was a little bitter in my previous comment, i still feel alot of the peeps in Wales need to act not talk; alot of sayers and not enough doers. alas, i apologise for my over-hasty rhetoric, and i will be watching the welsh scene very closely- and so will my bredrens, as we could be the ones to help bring it through (NO NAMES MENTIONED).

Safe. Good luck to you. The scene definately could use some more heads pushing it onwards and upwards. If people focus on what they're doing things will happen. Big respect to all those trying to make it happen.
Peace.

safe to all the hedz n'that. jus wanna say that i think reppin wales in hip hop is all good and well neccecary, but it really aint about where ya from its about where ya at, an to be honest i couldn't give a fuck if u was from wales or honalulu, as long as ya rhymes were tight and the beats were sick! i'd rather listen to good music than welsh music nahhwhaameeeen! also ita be cool to see sum welsh acts up in bristol coz there's nuff nights goin on, i saw headcase lads, and i seen humurak alongside skinny and babyhead which was cool, (that was through a night called monster piece) but from what i can tell there's loads more i need to see.......maybe i need to get to cardiff still!!!haha. if there's any gigs worth checkin in cardiff post them up here.
check out qreds new shit, u know its gunna be heavy and peace to egg,
mistafire of SE` FIRE

word...and you can catch Se'Fire on the forthcoming Qred track- "Seasonz In Black", on the Backstreet Lobotomy album, Due out very soon now

Dead Residents 'Keep Britain Tidy' lp out soon. Heres a few links-

www.cbmag.co.uk/index.php?categoryid=4&p2_articleid=73

www.heroesofukhiphop.com/Review-DeadResidents-KeepBritainTidy.htm

www.ukhh.com/reviews/lp/2013.html

Fuck secondson & sfdb times up its over.

Shout out to Dead Residents and Optimus Prime on the Welsh Club show thursday. Well good to see 'youse' guys lol! Good board.
Dan.

Ruffstylz 'Lyrics' CD will be available nationwide as of Monday October 24th on associated minds

The CD is no joke and to help fire off in fitting style we will be running the launch party alongside Killa Kela and the rest of the Spit Kingdom crew at Higher Learning @ The Student Union, Cardiff on Saturday 22nd October 2005.

Lyrics will be on sale for the 'launch-night-only' price of just five of your honest pounds. (£5.00GBP) So if you want to pick up what's being called the best lyrical release to come come out of this country, come down, support and take away some long time coming skills. A change gon come people. Skills, substance and personality is making a come back. peace

orite dudes, dunno if its possible but cud some1 either e-mail me or post up how to get in contact with higher learning, jus wanna send them a a cd or sumut. safe as fuck. plus se' fire will be playin live @ rukus supportin dj scratch from the roots on 24th november @ thekla in bristol, gunna be sick, anyways, l8az.

Easy Dan ya galoot!

On a plug tip check the latest Undercover mag for a dope Dead Residents review and interview. Keep Britain Tidy soon come... 1

Mykes - Music.Of.Jack.Orgin. LP Out Dec 'O5 - Hazardous Hip Hop feat Wez Cooze & DJ Beattrix.

Beats By The Mighty Mister Stophe One
Rhymes By Mykes The Migwel

Check it or go wool eyed covered for the rest of your life!

ne one on this site heard of direct and caskade i got a sampler from catupult and they r heavy plus jus picked up ruffstylz cd its phat

excellent stuff on there heckler.very good music

Nice 1 4dee m8. HSG crew, your reviews out in DJ Mag... They are well feelin it!

http://www.myspace.com/wezcooze

Check it out. outtas

http://www.myspace.com/mykeshazardoushiphop

Check this too!

check out nightshift productions..hip hop crew from wales
www.myspace.com/nsproductions
peace

H.S.G. concepts 4 texts e.p.

A SUREPLAYER 5star rating,.Weird,man- this has the same shock of the new that first foreign beggars release had."concepts 4 texts" is clearly heavily influenced by the rza,s exploration of world music sonics & ancient oriental doom but is pursued with an untutored aggression thats totally compelling.Spliced up with dugeonesque chinese strings & lute,heckler kosh,met,skama,& picton ride the madness with some suitably whiney & deranged vocals,scratches eventually crossing each other out into pure arrythmia.Cypherzone (4dee& picton)is dubbed out thrum funk the pop group would of been proud of & sounds downright evil(especially with some jarring mental images- "leaving mcs looking like a baby drinking milk from a scabby nipple",anybody?).similarly Apocoliptic has a horrorcore vibe but a forward propulsion thats totally irresistable.No matter how dark HSG get(& they get pretty grim)every tracks totally listenable,totally serious & somehow manages to keep a straight face by dint of the genuine terror& wonder at the musics hart.Dig the highlight "nuff deep"for its slo-mo dub ruffness,its real spirit of 79 dread & its sheer barnstorming oddity.A name to look out for in 2006.Release date dec 1st o5.

--DJ MAG (november 2005)vol 4 /no.02